—credit to adam4d.com
—credit to adam4d.com
Just found this gem on Google. And I think it’s damn hilarious.
I write this for the benefit of my awesome friend and for anyone else confused about the Church’s view on homosexuality.
First of all, I do not agree with the link above. Just so you know before you go clicking it and not reading what I write :3
Many of the points I disagree with are addressed here, so I will go into some of the ideas that seem to be confusing to people and that I think need to be emphasized. Alright, here we go:
1) “God loves everyone”; “I was born this way”
I see so often that arguments for homosexuality involve something like “It says in the Bible that God loves everyone so how dare you say he doesn’t love these people when he made them that way.”
Ok, yes, of course God loves everyone. That’s not what we argue against. His love is no question. The question is whether He wants us to refrain from homosexual actions.
The “born this way” argument is irrelevant. As the link above says, desires that are not chosen aren’t necessarily inborn. Also, even if homosexuality was inborn, that wouldn’t make it ok.
2) The Bible and homosexuality
The Bible does make references to homosexuality, again shown in the link above. Even without the Old Testament references, Paul talks several times about it. Some people try to water it down: ”Thus, it appears that Paul would not approve of homosexual behaviour. But was Paul’s opinion about homosexuality accurate, or was it limited by the lack of scientific knowledge in his day and infected by prejudice born of ignorance? An examination of some of Paul’s other assumptions and conclusions will help answer this question. Who today would share Paul’s anti-Semitic attitude, his belief that the authority of the state was not to be challenged, or that all women ought to be veiled? In these attitudes Paul’s thinking has been challenged and transcended even by the church! Is Paul’s commentary on homosexuality more absolute than some of his other antiquated, culturally conditioned ideas?”
But did Paul ever group the homosexual practicers with unveiled women or Jews when he spoke? Let’s see:
1 Corinthians 6:9-11
“Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God”
Everything else there we agree is wrong. Why should homosexual offenders alone be declared okay?
Here’s another one: Romans 1:18-27
“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.”
Several of the people in the main link at the top (mainly for homosexuality) that are educated in their religions even say that the Bible is against homosexuality.
3) No hate; we’re not “homophobic”
I want everyone to understand that there is no hate involved here. We are called to love (agape-do what’s best for) everyone, and if that means helping them get closer to God and get to heaven (which it does), we’re doing what we are supposed to do as long as we do it in a kind, calm, non-judgmental way. We also need to remember that we aren’t better than anyone else.
I have seen those awful”God hates fags” signs and posts. Those are false and just completely unrepresentative of Christianity. As I said before, God loves everyone, and we are called to love them too.
(I also need to say as a sidenote that I’m very discouraged by the number of “Roman Catholics” on that first site. The Catholic catechism specifically states that homosexual actions are wrong, so if you choose to reject the catechism you cannot call yourself Roman Catholic.)
Just as a final note, I want to reemphasize that this is not about judging, hating, or condemning. It’s about agape. To my friend (who probably wants to remain anonymous here), I love you and am not trying to offend you or anything. I don’t like fighting and I don’t want to push my views on you. I just really want you not to go down the wrong path here <3
I guess that’s it. I hope this clears things up for everyone!
Reblogging again because I spent a lot of time on this and I want people to see it :3